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		<title>Noisy Dove Flyby</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 11:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Only a Liberal would find this controversial. She’s a Conservative from Alaska. What do you think she’s going to do with the cash? Buy something with it? You give those people a rifle and a pair of boots - a few years later they’ve got a city with a shipping port. Watch, she’ll invest in some unknown little jackass somewhere and turn another baby-blue state red. Astroturf my ass… U-S-A U-S-A U-S-A]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><strong>Scott Brown elected Massachusetts State Senator<a href="http://noisydove.com/wp-content/uploads/Friday-News-Wrap-up-1.jpg" rel="lightbox[1685]" title="Friday News Wrap-up 1"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-1690" title="Friday News Wrap-up 1" src="http://noisydove.com/wp-content/uploads/Friday-News-Wrap-up-1-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a><br />
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<p>Do you think a woman who had posed nude could ever achieve national political office?</p>
<p><strong>Disaster in Haiti</strong></p>
<p>The only hope long term for Haiti is a deadly disease that only affects jerks. That’s the only hope for a lot of developing nations criminally ruled by jerks. The CIA got close with AIDS, but they didn’t realize back then that butt-sex and being a jerk were not mutually inclusive. Ah well, dreams for the next conservative administration.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://noisydove.com/wp-content/uploads/Friday-News-Wrap-up-2.jpg" rel="lightbox[1685]" title="Friday News Wrap-up 2"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1692" title="Friday News Wrap-up 2" src="http://noisydove.com/wp-content/uploads/Friday-News-Wrap-up-2.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="187" /></a>‘We are the world’ Haiti relief recording session begins</strong></p>
<p>These people need to be stopped. Send your money to Red Cross.</p>
<p><strong>State of the Union address</strong></p>
<p>I don’t know why people take Obama’s speeches to seriously. I mean, they were never meant to be taken literally. His message is one of hope and change. We can all learn valuable lessons from his speeches but – lol – you can’t apply those ideas directly to policy &#8211; that was never the intended purpose of his message.</p>
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<p><strong>Toyota</strong><strong> Recall<a href="http://noisydove.com/wp-content/uploads/Friday-News-Wrap-up-4.jpg" rel="lightbox[1685]" title="Friday News Wrap-up "><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-1694" title="Friday News Wrap-up " src="http://noisydove.com/wp-content/uploads/Friday-News-Wrap-up-4-300x190.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="190" /></a><br />
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<p>Yeah! Another fat-cat scapegoat! Yeah, let’s get’m! Whoohoo!</p>
<p><strong>Obama getting tough on China for trade agreement infractions</strong></p>
<p>I’m getting tough on my credit cards too. I’m taking a different approach though. I’m paying off the debt – or at least trying.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://noisydove.com/wp-content/uploads/Friday-News-Wrap-up-5.jpg" rel="lightbox[1685]" title="Friday News Wrap-up "><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1696" title="Friday News Wrap-up " src="http://noisydove.com/wp-content/uploads/Friday-News-Wrap-up-5.jpg" alt="" width="230" height="288" /></a>Underpants bomber now talking, encouraged by parents</strong></p>
<p>Wow Obama administration! Way to go getting the kid to ignore his lawyer’s advice. If only all terrorists had responsible parents. And thanks for telling us about it too. Now all of America knows how great of a job you’re doing protecting us. Hey, so have you gone ahead and put Al Qaeda on the list to receive your FUCKING news letter yet?</p>
<p><strong>Sarah Palin to receive $100k speaking fee for Tea Party Convention</strong></p>
<p>Only a Liberal would find this controversial. She’s a Conservative from Alaska. What do<a href="http://noisydove.com/wp-content/uploads/Friday-News-Wrap-up-7.jpg" rel="lightbox[1685]" title="Friday News Wrap-up"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-1698" title="Friday News Wrap-up" src="http://noisydove.com/wp-content/uploads/Friday-News-Wrap-up-7-209x300.jpg" alt="" width="209" height="300" /></a> you think she’s going to do with the cash? Buy something with it? You give those people a rifle and a pair of boots &#8211; a few years later they’ve got a city with a shipping port. Watch, she’ll invest in some unknown little jackass somewhere and turn another baby-blue state red. Astroturf my ass… U-S-A U-S-A U-S-A</p>
<p><strong>Healthcare reform bill stalled</strong></p>
<p>Ok guys, I get it. You got caught up in all the inaugural excitement. We elected Obama assuming “change” meant <em>a thoughtful approach,</em> but you thought we gave you a mandate to turn the country on its keel. So you went after you’re dreams: single payer, sky-rocketing business costs, and reduced carbon output. I can’t blame anyone for going after their dreams. And hey, at least you go that juicy stimulus!</p>
<p>But those darn Democrats, they got in your way. Single payer was compromised into single <a href="http://noisydove.com/wp-content/uploads/Friday-News-Wrap-up-8.jpg" rel="lightbox[1685]" title="Friday News Wrap-up "><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1700" title="Friday News Wrap-up " src="http://noisydove.com/wp-content/uploads/Friday-News-Wrap-up-8-206x300.jpg" alt="" width="206" height="300" /></a>payer under a different name &#8211; then into a public option. Then even that was compromised – first into some fancy long winded name coined by Pelosi that essentially meant public option, and finally, a year later, into nothing more than a list new regulations – more similar to the Republican alternative to Hillary Care than the brilliant progressive stride we were all assuming would slide through. (Eh, regardless of the naïve math and unfunded state Medicaid mandates) And to add insult to injury, you have to buy some of those Dem votes too.</p>
<p>And darn-it &#8211; you could have passed it. Hell, you could have passed a bill covering sea lions FFS. I know you’d like to blame the Republicans, but shit man – you knew you had all the power and that’s how you wrote the bill. No Republican could have voted for that thing any more than you guys could all climb on board with invading Iraq! Or – wait. You got tricked on that one – hu? Well, you know what I mean. You can’t blame the dog you’re walking when you walk into a pole – even if he was enthusiastic about it.</p>
<p>So the question is: What now. Indeed, this bill is shot to shit. Stack that monstrosity on the back of the toilet in the staff bathroom. But what now? Should you pole-vault over the wall with Pelosi? Should you try to come to some reasonable consensus with a few reasonable Republicans? Should you keep this unorganized circus with your ring leader off in his own ring singing his poems?</p>
<p>I’m not sure what you should do. I’d like to see some actual reform though.</p>
<p><strong>Congress to cut funding for KSM trial in NY<a href="http://noisydove.com/wp-content/uploads/Friday-News-Wrap-up-9.jpg" rel="lightbox[1685]" title="Friday News Wrap-up "><img class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-1702" title="Friday News Wrap-up " src="http://noisydove.com/wp-content/uploads/Friday-News-Wrap-up-9-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a><br />
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<p>Every time anyone asks Obama or anyone in his admin a question about trying KSM in civilian court, they duck the question and assure us he’ll be convicted and executed. So if this is just going to be a $1 billion show trial – why not just <em>“have the trial”</em> (wink-wink)? You know &#8211; take a few days off, <em>“have the trial,”</em> print up some transcripts and stuff, execute the bastard, and use the $1 billion on some new Predator drones or something.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://noisydove.com/wp-content/uploads/Friday-News-Wrap-up-10.jpg" rel="lightbox[1685]" title="Friday News Wrap-up"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1704" title="Friday News Wrap-up" src="http://noisydove.com/wp-content/uploads/Friday-News-Wrap-up-10-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a>Don’t ask don’t tell – once again up for debate</strong></p>
<p>What part of “don’t ask don’t tell” is so hard to understand?</p>
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		<title>Why Was It A Better Idea To Read This Al-Qaeda-Commissioned Kamikaze Passenger His Rights?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 10:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Noisy Dove, help me think through my bewilderment that this foreign-birthed, al-Qaeda-commissioned Kamikaze passenger is not being tried as a POW? Why was it a better idea to read this lost kid his rights?



You would think we would learn our lesson, since that is how we treated the first World Trade Center bomber.

 I think the new approach comes out of the overall idea that we’re not at war with anyone – and that terrorists are criminals. This idea came out of the opposition to the Bush administration. In an effort to cripple his agenda, they pushed the idea that his ‘war’ was simply a scare tactic to pass legislation, with the hope that they’d stop his passage of any legislation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><p><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1472" title="Divinity Dove" src="http://noisydove.com/wp-content/uploads/Divinity-Dove.png" alt="" width="80" height="80" />Noisy Dove, help me think through my bewilderment that this foreign-birthed, al-Qaeda-commissioned <em>Kamikaze</em> passenger is not being tried as a POW? Why was it a better idea to read this lost kid his rights?</p></blockquote>
<p>You would think we would learn our lesson, since that is how we treated the first World Trade Center bomber.</p>
<p>I think the new approach comes out of the overall idea that we’re not at war with anyone – and that terrorists are criminals. This idea came out of the opposition to the Bush administration. In an effort to cripple his agenda, they pushed the idea that his ‘war’ was simply a scare tactic to pass legislation, with the hope that they’d stop his passage of <em>any</em> legislation.</p>
<p>Now this is a normal thing that happens on both sides. But with regard to the Iraq and Afghan war, and war on terror, this phenomenon has reached truly unhealthy proportions.</p>
<p>Allow me to explain with an analogy: There is a certain portion of the electorate that will watch Obama stand behind<a href="http://noisydove.com/wp-content/uploads/Detroit-metro-airport-attempted-bombing.jpg" rel="lightbox[1473]" title="Detroit metro airport attempted bombing"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-1479" title="Detroit metro airport attempted bombing" src="http://noisydove.com/wp-content/uploads/Detroit-metro-airport-attempted-bombing-300x168.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="168" /></a> a horse with a shovel until it fills with shit then watch him dump that shovel into a cake pan and call it a chocolate cake. Then that percentage will argue virulently that Obama’s ‘cake’ is in fact a chocolate cake.</p>
<p>Likewise there is a percentage on the other side who will argue that a chocolate cake Obama spent many house backing is <em>not</em> a chocolate cake, but a shovel full of horse shit.</p>
<p>Most of this is rational politicing. They’re just trying to slow an agenda they disagree with. But amount these there are certain irrational party-line idealists who – through these semi-rational efforts – start to become true believers. They actually start to believe that this pile of actual horse shit is chocolate cake. They’re even willing to eat it and smile, urging others to enjoy a large slice of this tasty chocolate cake.</p>
<p>Napolitano might be one of these partisan shit-eaters. So might Eric holder. They might actually believe that terrorists <a href="http://noisydove.com/wp-content/uploads/detroit-metro-airport-terrorist-bombing-attempt.jpg" rel="lightbox[1473]" title="Eric Holder"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1481" title="Eric Holder" src="http://noisydove.com/wp-content/uploads/detroit-metro-airport-terrorist-bombing-attempt-300x219.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="219" /></a>are just criminals and that we aren’t at war with a global network of Pan Islamists. So they’re willing to actually treat the war like law enforcement.</p>
<p>This is a totally illogical approach though. Criminals aren’t trying to literally destroy American. Criminals are just trying to make an easy living, or indulging a weird impulse. The ‘terrorists’ are in fact able and willing to destroy our society and are currently in that process &#8211; that’s what wars do.</p>
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