WL (whiny Liberal)
WL: What’s more important, enforcing immigration laws or laws against rape, murder, hard drugs, and spousal and child abuse? The AZ law is the type of misguided thinking that causes immigrants to fear the police. Victims don’t report instances of rape and abuse, and others are afraid or unwilling to offer valuable information to police about serious crime. There are better ways to enforce immigration [strawman alert].
AZ: Indeed, people who are openly breaking the law are often hesitant to report crimes by others or crimes perpetrated upon themselves. But the fact that a problem exists is not a reason to neglect a solution to the problem that is causing it. Many of those serious and violent crimes are committed by Mexicans (often gang related) freely and illegally passing through our borders. The amount of crime is simply exceeding the man power we have available, and the lack of Federal assistance is making such measure necessary to protect our citizens and visitors, regardless of race.
WL: There’s no way to prevent racial profiling. Police already pull minorities over with probable cause for other crimes disproportionately. This law makes it easier for police to profile brown people as illegal immigrants, a problem Latinos are already dealing with. This law would force citizen Latinos and foreign visa holders to keep their papers on them at all times! Nazi fascist state.
AZ: Correct. Racial profiling is one of those things you really can’t prevent because it occurs in the mind of the officer and can’t be proven. But, at least this law tries to prevent it, specifically, unlike the other laws you’re talking about. And, other than prevention of racial profiling, this law has nothing to do with race or skin color. Currently a suspect’s citizenship status can only be confirmed if they are suspected in another crime. The purpose of this law is to allow our police to enforce immigration laws without having to play the game of waiting for more serious crimes to occur.
WL: Immigration laws are in the Federal domain, and so should be enforced Federally.
AZ: Yeah, well, why don’t you try bordering a civil war with violence spilling over, running your police ragged while Washington proclaims your border fence a failure. Maybe this will light a fire under there enlightened think-they-know-better-from-1500-miles-away hopie changie asses! We need troops damn it! Things are getting Detroit around here.
WL: Police are a bunch of uneducated power-happy white guys who hate minorities and violate their rights every chance they get. I know because a cop pulled me over once and I’ve got minority friends. This just makes their bigotry not only legal but institutional.
AZ: Oh no. You got us. We confess. Our officers just love making people miserable, especially the self-hating blacks and Latinos on the force. And while we’re confessing, we should also admit that the reason we keep it so hot here is to keep out blacks and the reason we grow spines on our cactus is to poke the Jews. We’re still trying to figure out how to keep out the Arabs. We’re thinking about a law that requires police to suspect a driver doesn’t have a license if their driving is extremely poor. Ooohhh, I’m so angry I almost like it – Ooooo those non-members of my primitive group. Hmmmmmm, my ignorance makes me want to hit people with a 2×4 when I feel they threaten my click. *fart*
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