That’s odd. This story coming out has been one of the most damaging things to Obama. The comments weren’t bad. But the article did show that – or represent that – the experts on the subject think Obama and his band of wet-eared-twits are incompetent fools. And it’s not a political thing. Mc Crystal voted for Obama – I’ve heard. Hell, out of all the people feeling like jackasses for voting for Obama, Mc Crystal is in the top ten.
But seriously, who could blame any warrior for bitching about this administration’s attempt at administrating war? The whole group was dead-set against the surge in Iraq. They wanted to leave!!! That’s how Obama got off the ground politically. Before that he was giving pessimistic idealistic cheap-shot shit to Petraeus in senate hearings.
And Biden – good Lord… He’s still against the surge in Afghanistan. His idea was to leave and strike at terrorists with the Navy via missiles and drones. Holy-horseshit Biden, even with soldiers on the ground peaking in windows we’re struggling not to kill civilians and make more terrorists – when we kill terrorists with missiles and drones.
Sometimes democracy produces some seriously stupid events. Unless we plan to stay in Afghanistan for the next couple decades, as apposed to starting withdraws according to Obama’s Lefty time-table, I’m not sure how we’ll pull this thing off. Canning guys like Mc Crystal for this kind of crap isn’t going to help.
Do you get the feeling, when Obama has to step outside and partake in the job of actual leadership, that he feels he’s getting sidetracked? I think Obama saw the President as the guy who get’s to say where we pull over to eat and when, but didn’t realize 99% of the time he’d have to be driving this damn country and not pushing his big fancy agenda.
And that’s what half this thing is about. Obama has his nifty time-line and is still openly planning to start withdraws next July, even though we are currently stuck up to the axles. Everyone with a brain has been screaming and crying about why announcing time-lines to Al Qaeda and the Taliban is extremelyunwise, illogical, and insane – sort of like telling them how you, or that you have, extracted intelligence from one of their failed suiciders.
Obama hits his old problem here: ideology trumping logic. If his Left suspected his Afghanistan commitment was open ended – and some do – they’d turn on his hopy-changey ass. But he’s stuck! He already used 2007-2008 pleasant Afghanistan to hammer on Bush and the, then difficult, efforts in Iraq – calling Afghanistan necessary and not optional and a bunch of other words that would commit even a slimy politician to the effort – at least for a while, until some logical-sounding reason can be found to leave.
At least with Afghanistan some of the criticism is right. You guys know, I’ve always had faith in Iraq. When former
Iraqi’s were saying Iraqis aren’t capable of talk, they’ll just hit each other with shoes, I remembered a photo taken just after the fall of Baghdad: Smoke was rising from the city and US troops where holding up traffic going in. The photographer was behind an old pickup FILLED with ripe tomatoes. They had to get those tomatoes to market or they’d rot! I felt then these people had what it would take to build a society without a dictator keeping them inline. I don’t have this faith in Afghanistan.
Afghanistan is HUGE, primitive, corrupt, CRAZY, desperate, and just plain generally not-smart. But like McCain said over and over: It’s not troop presence that people are against, it’s casualties. That’s one more thing McCain said that’s proven true. Can anyone think of anything Obama or Biden said that has proven true? POSERS!!!
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Oooo Ooo! Stop Over There! That Looks Like A Good Place To Eat!
June 28, 2010 by Noisy Dove
But seriously, who could blame any warrior for bitching about this administration’s attempt at administrating war? The whole group was dead-set against the surge in Iraq. They wanted to leave!!! That’s how Obama got off the ground politically. Before that he was giving pessimistic idealistic cheap-shot shit to Petraeus in senate hearings.
And Biden – good Lord… He’s still against the surge in Afghanistan. His idea was to leave and strike at terrorists with the Navy via missiles and drones. Holy-horseshit Biden, even with soldiers on the ground peaking in windows we’re struggling not to kill civilians and make more terrorists – when we kill terrorists with missiles and drones.
Sometimes democracy produces some seriously stupid events. Unless we plan to stay in Afghanistan for the next couple decades, as apposed to starting withdraws according to Obama’s Lefty time-table, I’m not sure how we’ll pull this thing off. Canning guys like Mc Crystal for this kind of crap isn’t going to help.
Do you get the feeling, when Obama has to step outside and partake in the job of actual leadership, that he feels he’s getting sidetracked? I think Obama saw the President as the guy who get’s to say where we pull over to eat and when, but didn’t realize 99% of the time he’d have to be driving this damn country and not pushing his big fancy agenda.
And that’s what half this thing is about. Obama has his nifty time-line and is still openly planning to start withdraws next July, even though we are currently stuck up to the axles. Everyone with a brain has been screaming and crying about why announcing time-lines to Al Qaeda and the Taliban is extremelyunwise, illogical, and insane – sort of like telling them how you, or that you have, extracted intelligence from one of their failed suiciders.
Obama hits his old problem here: ideology trumping logic. If his Left suspected his Afghanistan commitment was open ended – and some do – they’d turn on his hopy-changey ass. But he’s stuck! He already used 2007-2008 pleasant Afghanistan to hammer on Bush and the, then difficult, efforts in Iraq – calling Afghanistan necessary and not optional and a bunch of other words that would commit even a slimy politician to the effort – at least for a while, until some logical-sounding reason can be found to leave.
At least with Afghanistan some of the criticism is right. You guys know, I’ve always had faith in Iraq. When former
Iraqi’s were saying Iraqis aren’t capable of talk, they’ll just hit each other with shoes, I remembered a photo taken just after the fall of Baghdad: Smoke was rising from the city and US troops where holding up traffic going in. The photographer was behind an old pickup FILLED with ripe tomatoes. They had to get those tomatoes to market or they’d rot! I felt then these people had what it would take to build a society without a dictator keeping them inline. I don’t have this faith in Afghanistan.
Afghanistan is HUGE, primitive, corrupt, CRAZY, desperate, and just plain generally not-smart. But like McCain said over and over: It’s not troop presence that people are against, it’s casualties. That’s one more thing McCain said that’s proven true. Can anyone think of anything Obama or Biden said that has proven true? POSERS!!!
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