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		<title>Comment on War Is Required For Patriotism To Exist by Noisy Dove</title>
		<link>http://noisydove.com/2010/02/war-is-required-for-patriotism-to-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-2497</link>
		<dc:creator>Noisy Dove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 21:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wars don&#039;t have to make you good or great. They just have to stop aggressors from taking your home and destroying your society. So it&#039;s a good thing we have those patriots who are willing to go kill people. It&#039;s the alternative to all of use being ready to kill people when the aggressors are allowed to grow and overtake their weak neighbors - like Hitler, Japan, Stalin, Rome, Atilla, and who ever else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wars don&#8217;t have to make you good or great. They just have to stop aggressors from taking your home and destroying your society. So it&#8217;s a good thing we have those patriots who are willing to go kill people. It&#8217;s the alternative to all of use being ready to kill people when the aggressors are allowed to grow and overtake their weak neighbors &#8211; like Hitler, Japan, Stalin, Rome, Atilla, and who ever else.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Calling Obama A Socialist An Insult to Socialists by CommieBlaster</title>
		<link>http://noisydove.com/2010/01/calling-obama-a-socialist-an-insult-to-socialists/comment-page-1/#comment-498</link>
		<dc:creator>CommieBlaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 14:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out our COMMUNISTS IN THE US GOVERNMENT News and Reference Site: http://www.commieblaster.com

Facts organized all in one location.  Obama, New Party, Ayers, Dunn, Jennings, Jones, Sunstein, Jarrett, Lloyd, Wright, School Indoctrinations, Soros, Cop-Killers, Cuban Spy Rings, Commie Media, Misinformation, Congress Investigation, plus details on Socialist/Communist Members of Congress like Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank and over 80 others.  Listen to Soviet Spy defector explain how communist takeovers are performed and Reagan&#039;s guidance on dealing with Communists.  Learn what a Socialist, Communist and Progressive is.  Examine ACORN, SEIU&#039;s and Union Communist leaders.  See FBI files and testimonies.   Catch up on Takeover News and study a Communist Takeover Plan from the 1960&#039;s, along with how to resist.  Videos, links, pdfs. 

Commies can run, but they can&#039;t hide! -  http://www.commieblaster.com</description>
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<p>Facts organized all in one location.  Obama, New Party, Ayers, Dunn, Jennings, Jones, Sunstein, Jarrett, Lloyd, Wright, School Indoctrinations, Soros, Cop-Killers, Cuban Spy Rings, Commie Media, Misinformation, Congress Investigation, plus details on Socialist/Communist Members of Congress like Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank and over 80 others.  Listen to Soviet Spy defector explain how communist takeovers are performed and Reagan&#8217;s guidance on dealing with Communists.  Learn what a Socialist, Communist and Progressive is.  Examine ACORN, SEIU&#8217;s and Union Communist leaders.  See FBI files and testimonies.   Catch up on Takeover News and study a Communist Takeover Plan from the 1960&#8217;s, along with how to resist.  Videos, links, pdfs. </p>
<p>Commies can run, but they can&#8217;t hide! &#8211;  <a href="http://www.commieblaster.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.commieblaster.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on House Passes Health Care Reform Bill :( by Winnie the Pooh Halloween Coloring Pages &#187; House Passes Health Care Reform Bill :(</title>
		<link>http://noisydove.com/2009/11/house-passes-health-care-reform-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-285</link>
		<dc:creator>Winnie the Pooh Halloween Coloring Pages &#187; House Passes Health Care Reform Bill :(</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] healthcare reform passes house The House passed it, and by only 5 votes. One Republican YEA. 39 Democrat NAY. You know that&#8217;s a piece of garbage that will see trouble in the Senate. LOL. Posted in Politics &#124; Tagged america, bill , care , &#8230;This Blog [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] healthcare reform passes house The House passed it, and by only 5 votes. One Republican YEA. 39 Democrat NAY. You know that&#8217;s a piece of garbage that will see trouble in the Senate. LOL. Posted in Politics | Tagged america, bill , care , &#8230;This Blog [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Love Shepherd Smith by Dr. Dove</title>
		<link>http://noisydove.com/2009/09/love-shepherd-smith/comment-page-1/#comment-184</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Dove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 21:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shepard Smith is right on. Doctors and nurses need to be vaccinated so we don&#039;t act as vectors to our patients. It&#039;s that plain and damn simple. The idea that the vaccine is &quot;untested and unsafe&quot; is based on a poor understanding of the vaccine. It is standard flu vaccine, but designed with the specific H1N1 antigens to protect against swine flu. There are no new additives, etc. Regarding the mercury she mentioned...a can of tuna has more mercury.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shepard Smith is right on. Doctors and nurses need to be vaccinated so we don&#8217;t act as vectors to our patients. It&#8217;s that plain and damn simple. The idea that the vaccine is &#8220;untested and unsafe&#8221; is based on a poor understanding of the vaccine. It is standard flu vaccine, but designed with the specific H1N1 antigens to protect against swine flu. There are no new additives, etc. Regarding the mercury she mentioned&#8230;a can of tuna has more mercury.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Picking the Bones by Noisy Dove</title>
		<link>http://noisydove.com/2009/07/picking-the-bones/comment-page-1/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>Noisy Dove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I generally agree with him, except for letting the banks die. It wasn’t that their business model was faulty. They just made a big mistake putting so much over-leveraged money into housing - like everyone else did. Bush decided to loan them a huge chunk of cabbage to straiten things out. It WORKED! Or is working. Goldman Sax is cleaning up now. I’m betting we’ll get a return on that investment.  

The alternative would have been letting the banks die. That would also mean our economy as we know it would die. Sure, it would sprout new banks and a totally new economy. Who knows how many decades that would take or how many people would starve or what kind of government we would have by then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I generally agree with him, except for letting the banks die. It wasn’t that their business model was faulty. They just made a big mistake putting so much over-leveraged money into housing &#8211; like everyone else did. Bush decided to loan them a huge chunk of cabbage to straiten things out. It WORKED! Or is working. Goldman Sax is cleaning up now. I’m betting we’ll get a return on that investment.  </p>
<p>The alternative would have been letting the banks die. That would also mean our economy as we know it would die. Sure, it would sprout new banks and a totally new economy. Who knows how many decades that would take or how many people would starve or what kind of government we would have by then.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Healthcare Reform and &#8220;Fundamental Change&#8221; by Noisy Dove</title>
		<link>http://noisydove.com/2009/07/healthcare-reform-and-fundamental-change/comment-page-1/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>Noisy Dove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 02:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Health care cost as percent of GDP indeed is growing. But your answer is the same vague answer I’m complaining about – “fundamental change”. Seriously, what does that mean? Stop treating sick people and only treat healthy people? Have patents prescribe medicine to doctors? Neuter everyone and breed perfect children in laboratories? That&#039;s fundamental change.

The definition I see coming from the Obama admin for fundamental change always equates to huge arbitrary spending bills, tax increases, or creation of more bureaucratic regulatory entities. 

Rather than making yet another HUGE gamble in a very unstable time, it seems to me we should focus on less fundamental changes. We could make some incentives to move some nurses into teaching jobs so we can fill the nurse shortage for one – that would cut some serious costs. 

I think the “fundamental change” we will all have to eventually accept is that with out technology there is no end to the amount of money we could spend on the illness our society deals with. And if we want to get to a reasonable point, where all chronic patience get regular maintenance and curable illness get’s its remedy – as though it’s a human right – we are going to have to shift a good bit more GDP over to medicine - especially if we keep up all the damn recreational eating.

You say we, the American people, simply don&#039;t have the resources. I say we simply aren&#039;t allocating them according to our proclaimed value that health care is a right. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Health care cost as percent of GDP indeed is growing. But your answer is the same vague answer I’m complaining about – “fundamental change”. Seriously, what does that mean? Stop treating sick people and only treat healthy people? Have patents prescribe medicine to doctors? Neuter everyone and breed perfect children in laboratories? That&#8217;s fundamental change.</p>
<p>The definition I see coming from the Obama admin for fundamental change always equates to huge arbitrary spending bills, tax increases, or creation of more bureaucratic regulatory entities. </p>
<p>Rather than making yet another HUGE gamble in a very unstable time, it seems to me we should focus on less fundamental changes. We could make some incentives to move some nurses into teaching jobs so we can fill the nurse shortage for one – that would cut some serious costs. </p>
<p>I think the “fundamental change” we will all have to eventually accept is that with out technology there is no end to the amount of money we could spend on the illness our society deals with. And if we want to get to a reasonable point, where all chronic patience get regular maintenance and curable illness get’s its remedy – as though it’s a human right – we are going to have to shift a good bit more GDP over to medicine &#8211; especially if we keep up all the damn recreational eating.</p>
<p>You say we, the American people, simply don&#8217;t have the resources. I say we simply aren&#8217;t allocating them according to our proclaimed value that health care is a right.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Healthcare Reform and &#8220;Fundamental Change&#8221; by Dr. Dove</title>
		<link>http://noisydove.com/2009/07/healthcare-reform-and-fundamental-change/comment-page-1/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Dove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your assessment that preventative medicine (like being an appropriate weight and not smoking) is important in keeping people healthy, and I agree that our healthcare system would be in great shape if we had more of everything you stated above. The problem is precisely that we (the American people) don&#039;t have the resources to fund more healthcare in its current form. That is why the healthcare system needs to fundamentally change. The percent of GDP spent on healthcare in this country increases every year. We can&#039;t keep this up for long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your assessment that preventative medicine (like being an appropriate weight and not smoking) is important in keeping people healthy, and I agree that our healthcare system would be in great shape if we had more of everything you stated above. The problem is precisely that we (the American people) don&#8217;t have the resources to fund more healthcare in its current form. That is why the healthcare system needs to fundamentally change. The percent of GDP spent on healthcare in this country increases every year. We can&#8217;t keep this up for long.</p>
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